Online suicide forum encourages self-harm and suicide methods
Media and Sport received 3 coroners' reports about this hazard between 3 Dec 2019 and 19 Dec 2023.
They came from 3 different coroners in 3 coroner areas. A similar concern was raised again 2 times after the first warning.
A published response was found for 2 of the 2 earlier reports, stating 4 specific actions.
The story, report by report
Spacing grows with the time between reports.
“[the deceased] was using an online suicide forum, (the forum now appears under the internet address .Through the forum she was able to engage in discussions with other pro-suicide members and obtain advice how to”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Media and Sport responded, stating 1 specific action.Response (PDF) ↗
“The regulator may also undertake thematic teviews of areas of concern, for example, a review into the treatment of self-harm or suicide-related content.”
- 3 years 11 months laterIdentical hazardConfidence 0.90 · higha different coroner
“The concern here is that this site & potentially similar self-harm & suicide "facilitating, or promoting" sites are accessible/available to those, such as BM who are vulnerable, due to their diagnosed, or otherwise mental illness & provided with an outlet/forum to source & acquire information that potentially equips them with the knowledge & means to either complete suicide, or place them in grave/greater danger of doing so.”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Repeated from the earlier report:suicidemental
Media and Sport responded, stating 1 specific action.Response (PDF) ↗
“this Welsh Government will actively engage with, and contribute to, the three phases of Canolfan Cyswllt Cyntaf / First Point of Contact Centre: 0300 0604400”
- 2 months laterClosely relatedConfidence 0.90 · higha different coroner
“(3) [REDACTED], is a forum that permits material to be exchanged and viewed within its open chatrooms whereby suicide is encouraged, assisted, counselled and procured through the provision and exchange of information and methods.”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Repeated from the earlier report:forumsuicide
Media and Sport responded, stating 2 specific actions.Response (PDF) ↗Response (PDF) ↗
“seeking to tackle at source the suppliers of harmful substances for the purposes of suicide”
Web search (Tavily): No evidence found either way
Read "Reducing the Threat of Improvised Explosive Device Attacks by Restricting Access to Explosive Precursor Chemicals" at NAP.edu ↗“The act's illegal safety duties will apply to all in-scope 'user-to-user' services which allow users to post content online, or to interact with each other - including online forums. This means that once these duties are in force, they will be required to have systems and processes in place to proactively prevent users from encountering priority illegal content via their service and to minimise the length of time for which such content is present.”
Stated timescale: once these duties are in force
- All reports to Media and Sport
Each row is one judged link between an earlier and a later report. Open a row to read both quotes, found word for word in the originals.
2019 → 2023Bronwen Morgan3 years 11 months after Callie Lewis · different coronerIdentical hazardConfidence 0.90 · high
Identical hazardConfidence 0.90 · highBoth reports describe an online suicide forum that provides vulnerable individuals with advice on evading mental health interventions and perfecting self‑harm methods.
Callie Lewis · 3 Dec 2019
“[the deceased] was using an online suicide forum, (the forum now appears under the internet address .Through the forum she was able to engage in discussions with other pro-suicide members and obtain advice how to mislead mental health professionals to avoid being sectioned under the Mental Health Act”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Bronwen Morgan · 25 Oct 2023
“The concern here is that this site & potentially similar self-harm & suicide "facilitating, or promoting" sites are accessible/available to those, such as BM who are vulnerable, due to their diagnosed, or otherwise mental illness & provided with an outlet/forum to source & acquire information that potentially equips them with the knowledge & means to either complete suicide, or place them in grave/greater danger of doing so.”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Stated action in the response to the earlier report
“The regulator may also undertake thematic teviews of areas of concern, for example, a review into the treatment of self-harm or suicide-related content.”
2019 → 2023Chloe Macdermott4 years 1 month after Callie Lewis · different coronerClosely relatedConfidence 0.90 · high
Closely relatedConfidence 0.90 · highBoth reports identify an online suicide forum that enables users to obtain encouragement, advice, and methods for suicide.
Callie Lewis · 3 Dec 2019
“[the deceased] was using an online suicide forum, (the forum now appears under the internet address .Through the forum she was able to engage in discussions with other pro-suicide members and obtain advice how to”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗ Chloe Macdermott · 19 Dec 2023
“(3) [REDACTED], is a forum that permits material to be exchanged and viewed within its open chatrooms whereby suicide is encouraged, assisted, counselled and procured through the provision and exchange of information and methods.”
Original on judiciary.uk ↗
Stated action
“The regulator may also undertake thematic teviews of areas of concern, for example, a review into the treatment of self-harm or suicide-related content.”
Stated action
“this Welsh Government will actively engage with, and contribute to, the three phases of Canolfan Cyswllt Cyntaf / First Point of Contact Centre: 0300 0604400”
Stated action
“seeking to tackle at source the suppliers of harmful substances for the purposes of suicide”
What happened next: No evidence found either way
The sources discuss chemical supply chains, toxic substances, and policies targeting hazardous materials in products and packaging, but none address suicide prevention or actions by an organisation to tackle suppliers of harmful substances for suicide.
“This chapter characterizes the movement of precursor chemicals through domestic supply chains and the potential vulnerabilities inherent in those supply chains, based largely on the presentations provided during the data-gathering meetings.”
No evidence found does not mean the action did not happen.
Stated action · timescale: once these duties are in force
“The act's illegal safety duties will apply to all in-scope 'user-to-user' services which allow users to post content online, or to interact with each other - including online forums. This means that once these duties are in force, they will be required to have systems and processes in place to proactively prevent users from encountering priority illegal content via their service and to minimise the length of time for which such content is present.”
- Each report's concerns were extracted by Nemotron 3 Nano on Nebius Token Factory, each with a quote copied from the report.
- Concerns from reports to Media and Sport at least six months apart were compared by meaning (Qwen3 embeddings) and wording (TF-IDF).
- The closest pairs were judged by Nemotron 3 Super with reasoning on. Only identical or closely related, with confidence of at least 0.70, are shown.
- Every quote was checked by code as an exact substring of the original text. Names of staff and family are redacted, and the deceased are named by report title only.
| Link | Meaning | Wording | Judge | Coroner |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 → 2023 | 0.67 | 0.11 | Identical · 0.90 | different |
| 2019 → 2023 | 0.76 | 0.28 | Closely related · 0.90 | different |
Judge model: nvidia/nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b. How Nemotron did the work · Full methodology.
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